dn8:17.1 When he had spoken, Kassapa said to the Buddha,
dn8:17.2 “It’s hard, worthy Gotama, to know a true ascetic or a true brahmin.”
dn8:17.3 “It’s typical in this world to think that it’s hard to know a true ascetic or brahmin.
dn8:17.4 But someone might practice all those forms of mortification.
dn8:17.5 And if it was only by just that much, only by that course of fervent mortification that it was so very hard to know a true ascetic or brahmin, it wouldn’t be appropriate to say that
dn8:17.6 it’s hard to know a true ascetic or brahmin.
dn8:17.7 For it would be quite possible for a householder or a householder’s child—or even the bonded maid who carries the water-jar—
dn8:17.8 to know that someone is practicing all those forms of mortification.
dn8:17.9 It’s because there’s something other than just that much, something other than that course of fervent mortification that it’s so very hard to know a true ascetic or brahmin. And that’s why it is appropriate to say that
dn8:17.10 it’s hard to know a true ascetic or brahmin.
dn8:17.11 Take a mendicant who develops a heart of love, free of enmity and ill will. And they realize the undefiled freedom of heart and freedom by wisdom, and live having realized it with their own insight in this very life due to the ending of defilements.
dn8:17.12 When they achieve this, they’re a mendicant who is called a ‘true ascetic’ and also ‘a true brahmin’.”


