sn44.2:17.1 “What do you think, Anurādha?
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sn44.2:17.2 Do you consider that the label ‘realized one’ applies to one who has form?” … “… feeling?” … “… perception?” … “… choices?” … “… consciousness?”
sn44.2:17.3 “No, sir.”
sn44.2:17.4 “What do you think, Anurādha?
sn44.2:17.5 Do you consider that the label ‘realized one’ applies to that one who is without form?” … “… feeling?” … “… perception?” … “… choices?” … “… consciousness?”
sn44.2:17.6 “No, sir.”
sn44.2:17.7 “In that case, Anurādha, since a realized one is not found by you as a genuine fact in this very life, is it cogent for you to declare:
sn44.2:17.8 ‘Reverends, when a realized one is describing a realized one—a supreme person, highest of people, who has reached the highest point—they describe them other than these four ways:
sn44.2:17.9 After death, a realized one still exists, or no longer exists, or both still exists and no longer exists, or neither still exists nor no longer exists’?”
sn44.2:17.11 “No, sir.”
sn44.2:17.12 “Good, good, Anurādha!
sn44.2:17.13 In the past, as today, what I describe is suffering and the cessation of suffering.”