Timbarukasutta

sn12.18:3.1 “Worthy Gotama, when asked these questions, you say ‘not so’.

sn12.18:3.5 Yet you say that there is such a thing as pleasure and pain.

sn12.18:3.8 And you say that you do know pleasure and pain,

sn12.18:3.9 and you do see pleasure and pain.

sn12.18:3.10 Sir, explain pleasure and pain to me!

sn12.18:3.11 Teach me about pleasure and pain!”